Comic 811 - Blue vs. Gold, Page 39

12th Dec 2018, 12:00 AM in Blue vs. Gold
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Author Notes:

Adam C. 12th Dec 2018, 12:00 AM edit delete
Adam C.
I've never been able to get someone I know IRL to read the comic, but my brother will often make suggestions and toss out ideas for it. Which is rather distracting since he, y'know, doesn't read it. When I mentioned what was going on in the comic now, he asking me to put in a Reason You Suck Speech at one point in the fight (mostly because he just really loves the speech from Dark Knight Returns). It's maybe one of the only ideas he pitched to me that made its way in, though he wanted it to be more of a bragging speech about defeating him, not this morally-indignant one that I think fits a lot better for Lore, especially after all this insanity from Marvelous Man.

Kinda shows how much I wanted this mini-speech at this point; originally this page was gonna have Marvelous Man slamming Lore in the face over and over before finally getting her off, mentioning that it's hard to hit her at the angle she's at. I just couldn't work that in while also having her talking... For the record, do like the idea of Marvelous Man panicking and freaking out when the choking starts, felt appropriate and a sign that the fight's really not going his way.

I kinda did want to have at least one moment where Lore admits, yeah, she always hated the guy, but it was in part due to him giving her plenty of reason for it, and how as bad as he is, the kids never tried to force him to stop being a hero or picked any fights with him.

Actually, come to think of it the idea of Lore choking Marvelous Man was gonna be more complex. Was gonna have Andy point out that Lore punching him hurt because he was so invulnerable, but if she went in like a wrestler and used grappling moves rather than impact-based hits, she could maybe do more damage. Maybe it's best that plot-thread got cut, since their difference in size would've made it a pain to draw. Not to mention silly-looking. I already had to work reallllly hard to not make the piggyback-chokeout look completely ridiculous. .... I don't know if I succeeded.
Martin F. 12th Dec 2018, 12:02 AM edit delete
Martin F.
Not sure how much I have to say on this one offhand, kind of just shifting the focus of the fight. Admittedly I was a little hands off with this page compared to usual - don't really want to get into the circumstances but Adam did most of the heads and I basically just picked off some leftovers and did the backgrounds, shading, and such.

Either way, yeah. This particular moment is something that was in mind for a long time but it had a few different considerations in place as to how exactly to go about it. Probably be easier to speak more on that in a future page though.

All I've really hot but hopefully everyone enjoys this one.

Comments:

Wolfintina 12th Dec 2018, 12:14 AM edit delete reply
It doesn't look ridiculous to me Adam, wonder what's going to happen next.
Adam C. 13th Dec 2018, 5:56 AM edit delete reply
Adam C.
Heheh... Thanks. ^^
babygirl 12th Dec 2018, 12:33 AM edit delete reply
You guys did a really good job on this page; it really has some great moments in it. Best being Lore’s mini-speech, it differently kicks ass.

But anyway, like I said before MegaloManiac makes him sound like a soft drink or something, just sounds weird is all.

And no offense Adam, but the piggyback-chokeout does look ridiculous, but it works.

It shows just how much MM has lost it/is losing it, in trying to get this kid off him, in trying to defeat her, a kid who is barely tall enough to reach his knee, a kid who looks like she needs a little stepstool to get on the potty, a kid who her and her friends have/are kicking his ass.
Again why’ll does look ridiculous it’s in its ridiculousness that makes it work and shows how MM has lost it.
Onasaki 12th Dec 2018, 9:51 AM edit delete reply
Onasaki
Meglomania is a documented mental illness, based on the delusion that you're the best there ever is and no one can beat you. But you're so powerful that you're also paranoid that everyone is trying to betray you for that power.

It's a double edge sword, that breaks down to: it's everyone's fault but yours and they're wrong to question your choices. It gets to the point where "Well, if you're not with me, then obviously you're against me."

Many world leaders have suffered this in history, as well as military generals.
babygirl 12th Dec 2018, 10:53 AM edit delete reply
Sorry Onasaki for some reason I that it said MegoldManiac! not MegaloManiac. I am a dumb.
Adam C. 13th Dec 2018, 4:02 AM edit delete reply
Adam C.
For bonus points, Marvelous Man litterally HAS megalomania. Megalomania (Or rather it's clinical term, Narcissistic Personality Disorder) has 9 criteria that form it, and to be positively diagnosed, a person must display at least 5 of them. Of the criteria, Marvelous Man has displayed...
-Pompous and arrogant demeanor
-A sense of entitlement to special treatment and obedience
-Self-perception of being unique or superior to those around him
-Exploitative of others for personal gain
-Needing continuous admiration from others
-Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from other people

The other criteria, if you're curious, are inability to empathize with others, intense envy toward other people (with the belief others envy them) and preoccupation with fantasies or power and success. Marvelous Man has never had problem empathizing with others, as long as they're not what he considers bad people, he never fantasies about power, and he never envies others. But he still has the minimal five (plus one) needed for a positive diagnosis.

.....

I have a bachelor's degree in psychology so I talk about this stuff whenever I can....
babygirl 13th Dec 2018, 1:38 PM edit delete reply
Hay Adam again sorry, I don't know why I thought it said Marigold Maniac, maybe the same reason why I thought Emma was Canadian. Again I am a dumb.

But the thing I said about the piggyback-chokeout was right it is ridiculous looking, but like I said its it’s in its ridiculousness that makes it work and shows how mush MM has lost it.
Adam C. 14th Dec 2018, 8:06 AM edit delete reply
Adam C.
Heheh... Don't worry about that, know how things can come across. ^^
Zaealix 12th Dec 2018, 9:03 AM edit delete reply
Neat thematically as the choke might be- there’s a pawn-shaped man with a dragon curling around him now.
Adam C. 13th Dec 2018, 5:56 AM edit delete reply
Adam C.
That observation is so cool I actually feel really stupid to admit that it was in no way intentional.